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capblueberry · Nov 27, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

I've been trying to gain some fame in my r/mo character but I need some help

Please list the different groups in the hall of heros (ex. Iway, which I still dont know what that means)

I would ask in game but i dont want to sound like a noob and get kicked out of a group, Thanks

unamed player · Nov 27, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Join a nice spike group if your a ranger. If i were you though i wouldnt expect to ever win.

As for IWAY your not missing very much. IWAY means (I will avenge you) which is a warrior skill that increases health regeneration and speed. Most people run it because its simple to form a group and a no brainer in terms of organization. The build is not effective against good teams and most tombers run a ViM (victory is mine) variation of it today. The true IWAY is very rare to find nowadays.

I know rank is important to you. But think about what it means nowadays with people farming fame 24/7. Back when i started NO ONE had rank. I have to say that those were the most fun times to play. All the builds were different and true innovation existed.

My advice to you would be to either find or create your own guild and run with people you know and trust. Pick up groups (pugs) will not usually get you very far. Or you can be a loner like me and run with friendly guilds who you know and trust.

Look at it this way (as an example that not everyone is in the rank thing), ive been playing this game since release and im only rank 4. Not because i suck but simply because i dont tomb very often. People have this idea that all the best players are ranked.. even though most iwayers are rank 9 already. Rank means nothing anymore and if you truly want a challenge i would recommend you find a guild and GVG. Not that i should talk though..but most guilds i join are terribly unorganized or are unskilled or led by children who wouldnt know the first thing about running a guild. If your better than your guild leader..chances are you need to find a new guild:P

capblueberry · Nov 27, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

lol I've been playing since 3 a.m. (as soon as i could the day it was released) and i only have 4 fame ;(

capblueberry · Nov 27, 2005, 04:42 PM // 16:42

I have my own guild but i went on vacation for a week last week and turns out like 5 of them left and now ALL of them are inactive

Seissor · Nov 27, 2005, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I laugh myself silly in HoH, they turn me down with my 800 hours gametime 2million + XP and instead take a warrior in knights armor because he's rank 3 and I'm only Rank 2...Well...you deserve that warrior :-P

It'd be nice if every rank had an emote. Even if it only read in green text "Seissor Alorei is rank 2" just so ppl now you're true rank. Or else...what the heck does rank 1 2 4 5 7 8 10 11 have to offer? 0_o

I play IWAY because PvE is dead to me, done it all. And I wanna hoh, but its sooooooo tedious in hoh since I have no rank. Im using IWAY to get to rank 3, so I can start playing proper builds. IWAY is a cute way to ease you into HoH though, you get a feel of the maps, what builds or classes work etc.

IWAY is popular not because its effective (good teams shut it down) its popular because its relatively easy to find an iway group. I played with my monk and spent 3 hours to find a team, then we died versing ghosts and everyone left.......i want my 3 hours back. Played as an iway war for 3 hours and got 20 fame, better effort.

capblueberry · Nov 27, 2005, 04:59 PM // 16:59

i like to trap the uw

Gwenhywar · Nov 27, 2005, 05:09 PM // 17:09

You could also check the other HoH related threads that were just below the one you created ... lots of advices already posted there.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=79839
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=83290

Oh, and don't help to kill off (the already half-dead) tombs by joining iway ... join a PvP guild to find a bunch of players around your playing level, and with similar interests, and go play together. It is NOT worth staying in a guild where noone is ever online, even if it's created by yourself.

tomcruisejr · Nov 27, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53

hey,

here's my tombs experience.

i played gw in wpe, betas and still alive and kicking as a mesmer. yes its true that pvp during the early days was more fun than now because of diversity. seeing tombs group using now-useless skill such as well of power, restore life, troll unguent was usual before. when people was seeing deers emote, people started to devise fast way of acquiring fame. fotms were born. creativity died.

i love pvp but before, to be able to be effective in pvp, you must have most of the skill set unlocked. and capping skills only had 1 route, PVE. tried to cap and fell in love with GW pve, left tombing/pvp with 15 fame.

during my spare time, i love to do CA. it was weeks/month or 2 1/2 when i saw some korean R/W wielding a staff setting traps. i thought it was cool to fight with traps and tried trapping in CA. i devised a way not to be interrupted and since i got all mesmer skills unlocked, i found out that mantra of resolve will help me do my thing. did a lot of comps arenas run.

i was enjoying trapping still in CA and i saw lots of trappers trapping in CA. i was like wtf. little did i know that there was a bug in dust trap and some people abused it in tombs. trappers had the tombs spotlight. when it was patched, i tried to pug with trap groups and yes trap groups were still there. gaining 1 fame per zone or zero. stayed in tombs as a trapper until 1 warrior/ranger advertised

"need of 2 trappers for a new modified build"

i pmed him. and did a run. i still remember the words he said with that run.

we became constant buddy mates and after few successful runs, we decided to leave our guilds to form a guild, [Rank] We Kill For Rank. did some tombs run, gvg. 99.9% as a offensive trapper.

i left [Rank] to join also an ex-[Rank] trapper to form [MATH] Your Math Teacher with friends. gathered some friends, friends of friends, the best warriors, rangers, necros in the business and even experienced balanced players who want to experience "IWAY". to this date, [MATH] is the best "iway"/berserk guild in tombs/GvG.

from 15 fame mesmering, now i got over 2900+ fames from solely trapping in less than 2 months or so. i dont want to join any groups as rank 8 mesmer, necro or elementalist. it doesnt make much sense if i tell a group that "im a rank 8 monk" while i got my rank 8 from trapping.

moral is that, go play what you enjoy doin. your time will come. and just try to join groups, unranked or ranked. and your fair share of fame will come.

its not being the jack of all trades, master of nothing that gave me my fame/emote but doing the thing that i love the most (next to mesmering of course) with the best people doing the same.

goodluck.

Sagius Truthbarron · Nov 27, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

If you're not going to play in a theme group (That is, IWAY, Minion Factory, Ranger Spike, EoE bomb) then you'll probably need a tombs guild. Otherwise, unique builds that work are VERY rare.

If you don't want to do those, I suggest hunting for a guild group that does the tombs and asking them if they need anything. They'll probably want a ranked person, though.
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Minion Factory:

Minion Factory is where two players, "saccers", kill themselves using Blood is Power or Illusion of Weakness while 2 necromancers, minion masters, make Bone Fiends out of them.

Two other players, "resmers" use fastcasting with Restore Life to ressurect the "saccers" fast so they can kill themselves again.

A monk with Heal Area heals the minions. A trapper with Winnowing (I've also seen Predatory Season and Favorable Winds used) boosts up the minions with his spirits and protects the group of casters with his traps, sometimes using Healing Spring to keep minions and himself alive.

That's pretty much the fundamental Minion Factory/Minion Mass (Commonly abriviated as "MM" or "MF")
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EoE Bomb:

EoE bomb consists of using the spirit Edge of Extinction and then having the rest of the group kill themselves. This can either be done with Illusion of Weakness, Blood is Power, or Contemplation of Purity with Ether Prodigy

One or two Resmers use Mark of Protection to stay alive from the EoE blast, and then after everyone is dead they use Light of Dwayna to ressurect everyone quickly.

There are many variants to this build.
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I've never done Ranger Spike before so I'm not too clued in on that.

Kabale · Nov 28, 2005, 11:18 AM // 11:18

AAhhh...Minion factories are a joke. I run with ranger spike a lot and all we do is take out the necro(s) raising minions, run away, and watch all the minions turn against them. GG.

Also, please don't stop running IWAY, it's so much free fame!!

Life Bond: Giving you flawless against IWAY.

Seissor · Nov 28, 2005, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabale

AAhhh...Minion factories are a joke. I run with ranger spike a lot and all we do is take out the necro(s) raising minions, run away, and watch all the minions turn against them. GG.

Also, please don't stop running IWAY, it's so much free fame!!

Life Bond: Giving you flawless against IWAY.

Maybe against a dumb sh!t IWAY team. But if its my iway we run Nature's Renewal and Primal Echoes, heh heh. :-P You were saying? =^ . ^=

Kabale · Nov 28, 2005, 11:41 AM // 11:41

We're not dumb enough to let nature's last for longer than 5 seconds. Everyone in the team picks their respective number on the other team and checks what spirit is being dropped. Nature's is only a threat in the beginning of the match when the bonds have just gone up and I'm low on energy, and if it goes up half way or something, I've got full energy from balth spirit giving me limitless energy from all the warrior AND pet attacks... You have no idea how much fun it is being a bonder against IWAY. I've never spammed so many spells in my life xD

The only thing that bothers me about IWAY is if some hater just drops edge at the end of a HoH map even if they've lost...means we can't pick up our sigils

EDIT: never seen Primal Echo's used on an IWAY team, but yea. We just take those down as their the highest priority, and they go down quick cos they're low level ones anyway. If they're too far away, I just have to stand back for a while.

Manfred · Nov 28, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Earth spike is a really fun build to run. There's omsidian flame spiking, and then there's pbaoe spike, which is even more fun.

dansamy · Nov 28, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

I love bonding against an iway group. limitless energy.

Navaros · Nov 28, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblueberry

my r/mo character

There's your first problem. Most people want you to be R/Me to join an IWAY trapping team.

Quickest/simplest way to get fame is learn to trap, change to R/Me and play as an IWAY trapper.

Seissor · Nov 28, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabale

We're not dumb enough to let nature's last for longer than 5 seconds. Everyone in the team picks their respective number on the other team and checks what spirit is being dropped. Nature's is only a threat in the beginning of the match when the bonds have just gone up and I'm low on energy, and if it goes up half way or something, I've got full energy from balth spirit giving me limitless energy from all the warrior AND pet attacks... You have no idea how much fun it is being a bonder against IWAY. I've never spammed so many spells in my life xD

The only thing that bothers me about IWAY is if some hater just drops edge at the end of a HoH map even if they've lost...means we can't pick up our sigils

EDIT: never seen Primal Echo's used on an IWAY team, but yea. We just take those down as their the highest priority, and they go down quick cos they're low level ones anyway. If they're too far away, I just have to stand back for a while.

It varies, I say most IWAYs are pugs and you can walk all over them, I run my IWAY a little different, 2 ppl to the killin and everyone else guards our spirts, our precious little spirits.

they're not low lvl either, high lvl 120 secs, but if we verse an iway team, we dont fair as well, say if we verse anti-iway, how it always goes, u cant forsee the future.......or can I? =^ . ^=

fiery · Nov 28, 2005, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Just noticed.. use the search button ^^.

if i can get rank 3 in a matter of a week total... anyone can do it.. and not playing 24 hour in a day.. mainly tombing 2 hours a day.. IWAY is the easiest to farm fame.. IWAY WAR, TRAPPER, TAINT/ ORDER Necro, ppl spamming LF(Looking For), if they looking and not looking for rank.. how about u make that charc..ppl say rank.. i say it determines from noob to ppl knowing wut they doing.. as in my other quote on another tombs post..

"well i had the same problem...... i go IWAY trapper.. i would say the things i did to get into teams lols.. nothing dirty... just teennyy lies.. and im no noob.. and i got rank 3 in like 2 hours a day for like the weekend. ^^ so im happy with my deer.. plus some groups dont even care and there good.
ya i played this game mostly.. over the summer.. stayed up hella late till moruning... and i ntoiced today i got 1000 hours.. and im only rank 3.....soo ya... plus i sometimes slept and kept the game running."

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ighlight=tombs

ppl say IWAY IS IGAY or IWAY IS FOR NOOBS... some IWAYS fail vs some IWAYS...y is that.. that one IWAY is unexperienced..unoragaznied..yet the other IWAY was exprereinced was orgranized.. IWAY is like a filter those who r noobs can thou who can play the build.... PUG IWAY can bring u to HOH.. it can win it... it can win many battles until losing.. ITS POSSIBLE.. IWAY is fastest fame farming.. just get the right ppl.. right skills... AND ORGANZIED... won HOH with some guildies guild leader and PUG ppl... OA owns.

as for the builds..

I got my fame and rank 3 from TRAPPER, even thou u got 1000 hours it means nothing to ppl...u can join non rank 3 and hope to succed in winning.. A TON nooblets go nuts with fame.. and r complete noobs. and plus, i didnt start tombs till it was something else to do. i was relectant and most thing i do now, besides GVG and farming for gold...seeing im poor.. DAMN U EBAYERS. and now i play TAINT.

IWAY WAR, simply rambo build plus IWAY skill, with either sprint/sprirt/rev animal

Taint, tainted flesh,death nova,putrid,maelstorm,windbourne speed,well of suffering and profane res sig

Order, order of the vamp, other order skill, heal party, res sig, healing brezze and other skills

Trapper, 4 TRAPS INCLUDING HS(healing spring) dust spike HS barb or flame, whirling, mantra of resolve spirit res sig

for all those nooblets who will flame this post for having 2 stances.

ONE) yes i know stances dont stack
TWO) think about it u have mantra of resolve on u, warrios or rangers coming after u, wuts protecting u? NOTHING, and dont say o i will just dust trap
THREE) they can still HIT U, plus short duration on blindness
SOLUTION) always carry whirling defense, warriors running after u? ranger spike? smack on whirling and try to survive, try.

seeing i got an essay do 8th period.. imma start doing it. have fun with tombs. its great.. but not when u win HOH and all u get is a gold Avicara Elementalist Gear aka, a blood major rune.

ejm716 · Nov 28, 2005, 03:07 PM // 15:07

i find the way that IWAYers aer proud of destroying the pvp of a game quite entertaining.
Also the way they always insult u if they beat u even if theyve just teamed up with the other iway in halls and ganked your hero. btw IWAYers when u insult the losing team to me atleast it just seems like ur so surprised uve actually one for once uve gotta make the most of the opportunity.
IWAY for the nerf! [no wait ive never gotten fame so quickly (by which i mean against IWAY teams ofc) ]
Revised to IWAY for the win

Pagan Greyfeather · Nov 28, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Please don't nerf IWAY! Others farm faction, we farm IWAY teams for faction! lol I love it! Tombs is a great time, and I admit my Guild sometimes runs a modified IWAY if we need faction to unlock skills for a Build that is fun to play. (IWAY, not much fun. Effective if done right, but still not much fun.) And don't worry about asking questions in Tombs if you run into something you don't understand, even if the n00blets start making fun (remember, most of them are 12 years old) somebody will probably whisper you back with an answer. Or pm me in game (I'll probably be standing nearby-again, I have to get a life!) and I can tell you what most builds are. We usually like to run a trap or balanced build as that works best for us. We also like spike but we really are bad at it. lol No idea why, but we can't spike for crap. And I agree with the above, Rank is not an indicator of skill. I wish all the dipwads running around throwing up thier emote would go hang in the International District for awhile. Deerheads-not too impressive there. lol-Pagan

Mystical · Nov 28, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabale

We're not dumb enough to let nature's last for longer than 5 seconds. Everyone in the team picks their respective number on the other team and checks what spirit is being dropped. Nature's is only a threat in the beginning of the match when the bonds have just gone up and I'm low on energy, and if it goes up half way or something, I've got full energy from balth spirit giving me limitless energy from all the warrior AND pet attacks... You have no idea how much fun it is being a bonder against IWAY. I've never spammed so many spells in my life xD

The only thing that bothers me about IWAY is if some hater just drops edge at the end of a HoH map even if they've lost...means we can't pick up our sigils

EDIT: never seen Primal Echo's used on an IWAY team, but yea. We just take those down as their the highest priority, and they go down quick cos they're low level ones anyway. If they're too far away, I just have to stand back for a while.

I've also come across and know some IWAY groups who have one of thier necros take Well of the Profane.